Sep 18, 2007, 07:54 AM // 07:54
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Tyria
Guild: Astral Guard [AG]
Profession: W/R
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Henchmen Appreciation thread!!
Scroll down in any catagory on this forum and you may come across a common theme, in regards to PVE.
"AI sux"
"will dey eva ficks da hero AI"
"Zhed wiped my team coshe ran off to pursue his life goals as i met the boss"
Well i've had enough of it, the buck stops here Mr.(and Miss's)
Why does no one bring up Linas perfectly timed SoR that just hapened to bail u out as u come running back to ur flagged AI, after accidently going to deep to pull?
Why does no one ever bring up Zhos inhuman accuracy and Henchy superior timing?
Why am i yet to hear about Danika's...er..hmm...grr...rreat looking hair doo?
My dream is for this thread to be the place, where after a hard/long day PvE'ing WITH AI, you come, and express at least one tale of how WELL the henchy AI worked for you. In any specific case, a well timed interrupt, a well placed ward, perfectly timed KD from Devona, what ever.
No More Henchy Hate, they dont complain when u loose agro and send the squishies a large cleaver weilding gift of doom, or when u fail to spot the enemy monk with the funny name healing the enemy while u chop away at the ele whos spiking down ur team 1 by 1 wondering to ur self "wtf this is n invinci ele"!!! *breath, breath*
Love them.
PS, GWG mods is there anyway maybe next Saturday, the "GORED ENGINE" can be replaced by LOVE HENCHMEN, even if it s just for a day.
So for example, someone will have a bad day in with a PUG group and come here to vent, he'll be like WTF i HATE PUG groups this MotherLOVE HENCHMEN monk wouldnt do his job i LOVE HENCHMEN hate monks in this game!!
/rant over
Last edited by Juk3n; Sep 18, 2007 at 07:58 AM // 07:58..
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Sep 18, 2007, 08:13 AM // 08:13
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]
Profession: W/Mo
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Danika's voice is my only henchman gripe to be honest. The henchies in GW are quite decent, especially the GWEN ones who have very nice bars.
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Sep 18, 2007, 08:46 AM // 08:46
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Wilds Pathfinder
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Having completed just about every mission/bonus in Proph with 6 chars using just the hench (and the majority of missions, if not the bonuses, in Fact) back in the days before heroes and flags, I will join you in singing the praises of the hench.
They never complain, they never leave mid-mission and they never draw pensu on the map. The fabulous wealth they've accumlated while in my company is well deserved; the fact that they continue to make themselves available when they could easily retire comfortably shows that they love adventuring as much as I.
The people who complain about them don't seem to understand their strengths, preferring to dwell on their weaknesses. It's as if they expect them to behave like real players, which they are not. And many of the things they complain about, well, I've seen real people do those things and worse.
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Sep 18, 2007, 08:49 AM // 08:49
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: N/
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I love how Argo always runs right up to the mobs and gets himself k...
Oh. Henchmen appreciation thread. Well, henchy monks and interrupters always have a place in my party.
Thanks Alesia, Lina, Mhenlo, Kihm, Sister Tai, Jamei, Danika, Redemptor Karl, Seaguard Gita, Erys Vasburg, Daemon and Zho.
Can't say the same about any of the others, really. Screw them!
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Sep 18, 2007, 08:51 AM // 08:51
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Drazach Thicket
Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]
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They're AI.
They don't care what we may have to say about them.
Generally that is why I just stick em in the party and think no more of it.
Whether the AI sucks or not.... the very fact that they will never take a toilet-break or stop to answer the phone mid-combat, let alone disconnect.... make them better than any PuG in most places.
Quote:
Originally Posted by arsie
Thanks Alesia, Lina, Mhenlo, Kihm, Sister Tai, Jamei, Danika, Redemptor Karl, Seaguard Gita, Erys Vasburg, Daemon and Zho.
Can't say the same about any of the others, really. Screw them!
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Eve has something to say to you regarding the job she does ensuring the monks have enough energy to heal.
She'll meet you in the Norn Fighting Tournament....
Last edited by SotiCoto; Sep 18, 2007 at 08:53 AM // 08:53..
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Sep 18, 2007, 08:53 AM // 08:53
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Northern California
Guild: HoTR
Profession: N/Me
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I'll just say I'm glad the war henches in Eotn don't use charge any more
haven't checked if they made that backwards compatible.......
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Sep 18, 2007, 08:55 AM // 08:55
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Grind is subjective
Guild: learn this please
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You hear constant complaint about henchmen because, get this, they actually suck. Times when they do things right are vastly outnumbered by the times they do things terribly wrong, and certainly don't deserve much, if any, praise.
Heroes, of course, are a bit better, thanks to the customizability--and their ability to excel at running certain bars--but on the whole, the AI is still awful.
There's a reason for this, though--back during beta days, I recall a quote from Anet saying that they had to dumb down the henchmen, because they were actually far too good.
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Sep 18, 2007, 09:04 AM // 09:04
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2005
Guild: Spectra Sg [SpcA]
Profession: W/Mo
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if (cynn.meteorShower() && numberOfAliveEnemies>2)
System.out.println("Thanks, Cynn!");
outputs... nothing.
j/k j/k
i actually pretty like her skillbar.
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Sep 18, 2007, 09:06 AM // 09:06
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jun 2007
Profession: N/
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I did have the feeling that my favouritism will come and bite me in the bum at some point.
I must say that I have specifically brought Little Thom, Devona and Talon for their Charge!, gets the party from place to place quicker.
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Sep 18, 2007, 09:38 AM // 09:38
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]
Profession: W/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trielementz
if (cynn.meteorShower() && numberOfAliveEnemies>2)
System.out.println("Thanks, Cynn!");
outputs... nothing.
j/k j/k
i actually pretty like her skillbar.
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If (numberOfMobs > 1) { Devona.addLeeroyHandler(); }
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Sep 18, 2007, 09:49 AM // 09:49
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The 5th Celestial Boss
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Inverness, Scotland
Guild: The Cult of Scaro [WHO]
Profession: E/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
Whether the AI sucks or not.... the very fact that they will never take a toilet-break or stop to answer the phone mid-combat, let alone disconnect.... make them better than any PuG in most places.
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That's what you think...in reality, they're all on Bluetooth, and they're bitching about their party leader to all the hench back home who didn't get chosen.
Lina (Riven Earth): "OMFG this guy is a noooob"
Devona (Rata Sum): "Lolz"
Mhenlo (Riven Earth): "Look, 7 Raptors are coming, what should I do?"
Devona (Rata Rum): "While you're fighting the Ele boss, run off and aggro them to make things "liven up"...don't tell your leader I told you to do that"
*Mhenlo Dies*
Cynn (Riven Earth): "GG Devona. Noob."
If you listen closely you can hear them.
>.>
Last edited by Cebe; Sep 18, 2007 at 09:51 AM // 09:51..
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Sep 18, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Scotland
Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot
Profession: E/Me
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
That's what you think...in reality, they're all on Bluetooth, and they're bitching about their party leader to all the hench back home who didn't get chosen.
Lina (Riven Earth): "OMFG this guy is a noooob"
Devona (Rata Sum): "Lolz"
Mhenlo (Riven Earth): "Look, 7 Raptors are coming, what should I do?"
Devona (Rata Rum): "While you're fighting the Ele boss, run off and aggro them to make things "liven up"...don't tell your leader I told you to do that"
*Mhenlo Dies*
Cynn (Riven Earth): "GG Devona. Noob."
If you listen closely you can hear them.
>.>
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Lmfao. I swear my Dunkoro would say "Hey, Dark? I'll heal you in 10 minutes. I'm uh... kinda... Ok. Here's an orison of healing. That will stop that life transfer on you. OH COME ON! I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF WATCHING THE LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY!" I did have fun with Unyielding Aura on him, though. Killing him 100 times for the one time he refused to heal me with full energy. Yes, I always get my sadism fixes.
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Sep 18, 2007, 10:11 AM // 10:11
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Jul 2006
Guild: Guild Of Handicrafted Products [MaSS]
Profession: W/Mo
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Or Dunkoro might f*ck up stuff every now and then because he is engaged in some hot, steamy intercourse with Alesia? (Bald women are soooo FTW).
Oh if only henchmen could talk we would all be having a ball ^^
"Mhenlo if you DON'T STOP pinching Lina's butt she won't heal anyone anymore."
"I'm going on hunger strike because I'm getting GWEN chest gear, I need PROPER TOOLS to work! I don't ask you to shave with a wooden razor now DO I????"
"That danika has the most annoying voice ever, noone will notice when I 'accidentally' leave out an Orison or two?"
"Talon should stop smoking so much weed, that cough is getting nasty! Where I come from big birds are for soup anyway..."
"Eve stop cutting yourself and find a proper shrink kkthxbye"
"Cynn I need a hand here with these marshmellows plz!"
Last edited by bungusmaximus; Sep 18, 2007 at 10:26 AM // 10:26..
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Sep 18, 2007, 10:15 AM // 10:15
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Guild: None
Profession: W/
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Thank you Lina, Mhenlo, Herta and Eve (Pretty much the only ones I use)
I was doing Abaddon's Mouth HM and accidentally over-aggroed at the end (IE destroying more than 1 seal at a time). Thought we were going to wipe but the henchies somehow pulled through and rezzed everyone and I finished it easily
Oh and thanks Hayda and Livia, me parties before were such sausage-fests, now they bring the much needed feminine touch to my parties
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Sep 18, 2007, 10:22 AM // 10:22
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Drazach Thicket
Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
I'll just say I'm glad the war henches in Eotn don't use charge any more
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... That was the only reason I brought Talon and Devona with me in Factions.... ever. I can't go anywhere without a speed boost. Full party speed boost = WIN! GW:EN Talon / Devona = Fail.
Quote:
Originally Posted by arsie
I must say that I have specifically brought Little Thom, Devona and Talon for their Charge!, gets the party from place to place quicker.
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QFT!
I miss Talon's "Grunt grunt!" as we rampage all over the place...
... speaking of which, "Charge!" would be awesome for maintaining Rampage bonuses between spaced out mobs.... but OOOOHHH no... A-Net HAD to remove it.
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Sep 18, 2007, 10:25 AM // 10:25
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Australia
Guild: Prid of Ankh Morpork [Prid]
Profession: W/E
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
That's what you think...in reality, they're all on Bluetooth, and they're bitching about their party leader to all the hench back home who didn't get chosen.
Lina (Riven Earth): "OMFG this guy is a noooob"
Devona (Rata Sum): "Lolz"
Mhenlo (Riven Earth): "Look, 7 Raptors are coming, what should I do?"
Devona (Rata Rum): "While you're fighting the Ele boss, run off and aggro them to make things "liven up"...don't tell your leader I told you to do that"
*Mhenlo Dies*
Cynn (Riven Earth): "GG Devona. Noob."
If you listen closely you can hear them.
>.>
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Oh wow, thanks. Now I can stop going to see that expensive psychologist.
Regarding the OP, I don't know which henchies you're using, but I'm sure this is the AI behind Devona.
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Sep 18, 2007, 10:44 AM // 10:44
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Krytan Explorer
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Wow. This is becoming sooo....usuall. On every xx number of rant threads about something, there is a guy who opens anti-rant thread, with no actual arguments, just to be diffrent from majority of people who are complaining.
Henchmen suck. Heroes suck too, but less. But PUGs suck the most, so I'll have to stick with H&H in most situations.
Last edited by 6am3 Fana71c; Sep 18, 2007 at 10:52 AM // 10:52..
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Sep 18, 2007, 10:57 AM // 10:57
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: That one place with the trees, mountains and snow
Guild: Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]
Profession: Me/
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Appreciate Henches? We pay them with our loot! They have no right to being appreciated.
*Aatxe* -Drops Ecto-
*Margrid* -Dashes at Ecto and steals it infront of your nose-
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Sep 18, 2007, 10:58 AM // 10:58
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Halfway between here and there
Guild: Advanced Technology [CCCP]
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I <3 henchies, though I am annoyed that they stop what they're doing when I decide to move mid combat >.< Other than that, I usually prefer to use them instead of people, due to reliability :P
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